The right side of the action the wood has been properly reinforced with dowels to strengthen the stock. Stoeger also makes the Double Defense side-by-side shotgun in 12 and 20 gauge with 20-inch ported barrels, black synthetic furniture, and tactical features like optic and accessory rails, making for a very modern take on a defensive coach gun. From flintlocks through Yellowboy lever-actions, this collection includes early American fort guns, market guns, military guns, and the great six-shooter "equalizers" of the West. Known as The Coach Gun, this version of the Colt 1878 Shotgun has the shorter 20 barrels for better handling in tight spaces. coach guns this whole article just makes me laugh. Other times, folks would buy full-size shotguns and cut the barrels down to the desired length. Fine condition with checkering having been freshened. Bores are bright, barrels ring like my church's bells. & Co. Simply break open the action and load the shells then close the action. While probably could use a new black on the barrels soon it was nice to find an English double with original 2 3/4" proofs that was in nice condition and field ready. I might want/prefer an M-203 or a SAW or even an M-60 or MA-DEUCE..or even an F-15E, or an A-10 or AC-130 and DANGER CLOSE but do not have them available..there is no doubt of their superiority or capability in taking out and killing Bad Guy(s). I found one must hold the barrels farther out than with a regular double to give one more leverage and give the gun a "snap' to close it. I received one for Christmas a couple of years ago. Im not saying it happened to meIm just sayin. Petrik 16 ga Over&Under~ Only 5lbs. Add to Cart . Cond. I prefer a pump action shotgun because just the sound of you racking a round in he chamber is the scariest sound in the world. Stock Dimensions: 14 x 1, The frame and buttplate have scroll engraving. 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Would you put a green/inexperienced officer/ troop untrained/unfamiliar with a carbine up against a well experienced troop with a shotgun in real life??? The handsome and affordable single- and double-trigger scatterguns pack a potent punch. A 12 gauge double barrel coach gun by Manhattan Arms Companycirca 1890. Metal has mostly plum brown patina. Frame is, Castiglioni, Brescia. Like the double-barrel version, the Triple Threat accepts Rem choke tubes, allowing for a different choke on each barrel, if desired. Heavy, kicks like a mule, AND holds 2 cartridges? Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Very devastating and absolutely lethal. Looking from the breach end the bores look clean bright and shiny. At best it will penetrate only a few inches of gelatin and would probably be stopped by winter clothing. Great dimensions and barrels . If roused from my slumber I will pick it up even before going for my handgun. I had the breech plugs out of the shotgun/rifle. Updated Gun Listing Notifications I have several Mossys in 20 ga excellent inexpensive insurance. With a powerful firearm and an instant second shot, coupled with excellent handling qualities, these shotguns filled a real need. Not so! I am looking for one of these for a client. Locks with border engraving and signed Manhattan Arms Co. Checkered walnut fore-end and pistolgrip stock with . I purchased a DP-12 thru CTD threw a Streamlight green laser/light on it, filled it with buckshot and havent looked back. Also, firearms are deadly weapons if you arent mentally and emotionally prepared to kill the intruder, dont bring a gun. and is 2 3/4" proofed ~ Ribless with double triggers! I usually have to poke a cleaning rod down the barrel to get the shells loose, or drop something down the barrel to knock the shells far enough out of the chamber to grab and pull. I am looking for Manufrance Ideal's in all grades and any condition. The front action percussion lock is unmarked and there are no proofs on this gun. Open hammers, dual triggers. And coyotes and bad guys share some of the same qualities. but carries 29" Krupp barrels. With their limited capacity, the original coach guns might not be the best comparatively, but they are still really solid and effective. Great deals on Double Barrel In Shotgun Parts. $670.80. I prefer the #4 buck to 00. Dan is absolutely right; his M1 carbine is a much better choice. The left side of the frame has the Robbins & Lawrence and C.P. The hammers are not difficult to cock, and the triggers are crisp enough. Hammers have half cock safety feature, but no other manually operated safety. The double-barrel is about as politically correct as a shotgun can be. The hinged action was stiff at first, but became easier to use with a couple of trips to the range. Thomas Wild 12g. William Evans boxlock ~ A very quality gun for the price which is tight and field ready, Thomas Wild 12g. side by side that weighs under 6 lbs. Bob, That may well be true and no argument there. In came the need for coach guns. These Francotte guns are fabulous values. Most women can handle the 20 gauge more accurately and consistently/reliablyand allows for more PRACTICE and Familiarization with the firearm. CONTACT. I recommend cocking only one hammer at a time until you are very familiar with the shotgun. Find some of the best-selling side-by-side shotguns here! The Golden age of American shotguns lasted only about 40 years, from about 1890 until the Great Depression. Stock Dimensions: 14 3/8LOP x c, H. Nock, London. Barrel has a, SOLD A wall-hanger with a full,length walnut stock and round barrel of 40", and a lock that works well, but may not be safe to fire due to age and the condition of the breech, SOLD A 10ga double hammer percussion muzzle loader with 33" long barrels ans exterior metal of raised corrosion mixed with brown patina. No sane person faces down a 68 yr old man in his underwear with a freshly charged pump gun. We don't know a lot about this maker except that he set up shop at 5 Pelham's Lane in Colchester, Essex, from 1901 to 1913. As for me, a Mossberg 500 in .410, with 3 FEDERAL #4 Buck (Handgun) ammo, is my choice, Well. The name and address on the rib is very sharp and crystal clear and obviously never seen any sanding or re-blacking since new. The action is extremely tight out of the box and even a little tough to open at first. Coach guns are fine IF all you expect to do is fire two rounds. The pull from the trigger to the end of the stock is only 11 inches. The single best, and most economical arm for hunting and defense in the Old West was the side by side, double-barreled shotgun. Following the success of its initial collaboration with Vertx, Premier Body Armor announces its continued partnership. With 12 gauge or smaller inserts this gun might lend itself to be a good gun for the vintager sporting clay course as the weight and stock dimensions are good. I would think 18 or 20 pellets (27 in 12 ga 2.75). The LOP could be lengthened with a recoil pad to make the LOP almost 14 5/8". *For those that will ask: That is a scratch on the surface of the stock on the right side of the butt stock near the butt, not a crack. Sale price! We have had a number of Braddell guns over the years and they have always been very well made. By signing up you agree to Guns.com's even circa 1937. 's blog. I have an old style exposed hammer coach gun. Sell your coach gun for FREE today on GunsAmerica! Major and minor roadways have always been prime places for folks to get robbed by various forms of bandits. Throwback Thursday: Taurus Judge Range Report, ATI Milsport SGA 410 All the Advantages of an AR in .410, Ruger SR1911 LW Commander The Lightweight .45 ACP, Rifle Hack: Sighting for 100 Yards at a Distance of 25 Yards, Throwback Thursday: All About Bullet Grain. Classified Ad (3), Search Full Text of Listings The bores still measure in proof and have great minimum wall thickness. WANTED! Used. I think you need to read his comment because he doesnt mentioned firing on a fleeing perp. Its an ejection break action. I am a bit of a traditionalist anyway. Just because you are small (she is 50 110lb) their is no need to fear a 12 ga. was built between the wars 1925-1930. If a round isnt already chamber, still gives the perp your location. Antique Firearms. You use what have you have and what you know. Here we have an antique Prussian Nikolaus v. Dreyse Double Barrel Side by, BANK OF ENGLAND Antique BROWN BESS Flint MUSKET Napoleonic Wars Musket by LACY & Co of London Here we present an antique Brown Bess Flintlock Musket by Lacy & Company, made in England ci, 40 inch barrels are marked LAMINATED STEEL. Weight: 7 Lbs. Again it is practice/familiarization and what one has in their hands at the time of need. The bore is smooth and the lock tight and fir, 141. This is a mix of birdshot and buckshot at 15 yards. on the other hand, i loved my dads MOSSBERG 12 gauge pump, with a POLLY choke, for everything else. yes , my coach gun is a 12 with 000 buck, yes its great, range loads are Aurqila shorty slugs. 1800. This JIC unit is available anytime I leave my residence. The 1878 has an American walnut stock, two 3 chambers, 12 gauge cylinder bores, two side-by-side 20 barrels and two triggers, one for each chamber, standard blue finish Truly and outstanding looking and shooting firearm. Cylinder bore on both. I estimate this gun was built shortly after 1909. 1. 12 GA SIDE BY SIDE 2 18 BARREL. Exceptionally rare and fine 23-bore O/U double flintlock sporting gun, ca. with classic Prince of Wales grip and 2 3/4" proofs so can shoot many of the American shells! CZ-USA Hammer Coach 12ga 20" Black Chrome Barrel, 3" Chamber, Color Case Hardened . Stay in the know. Very solid Westley which could be used as is or restored to new glory. That is all, pretty much, still true. Those little shells in 8 shot make for a fun range pairing with the Hammer Coach. Good two-stage, ribless, 40 barrels with thick walls and no dents. Almost all double guns have internal hammer designs, which all serves to make the CZ Hammer Coach even cooler. No thanks. This is a very nice little English boxlock with very nice barrels and plenty of choke which is good if you want it or can be opened to anything you would like. We found this in the back of the vault and thought we should find a home for it. Yes! Some large agencies have used #4 exclusively for years, and they have not complained about stopping power. Not every shooting/self defense is going to occur under perfect lighting while standing in front of a paper target that is not shooting back. Pale Horse, Dark Angel, I absolutely agree. My Mossberg 535 with 24 bbl patterns about 2 3/4 with full choke. Try it with the 410 in a judge and it will scare you how bad an idea this is. Original Flip Up Site, 16 1/2 Barrel, Original Curly Mapel Stock. Gustav Kerstan 16 ga. with unique lock up ~ For the shotgunner that likes to show up with something completely different! If he is running the threat of danger has passed and if you shoot and hit him you open yourself up for prosecution. Rack the slide and the perp now has more tactical information about you than you have about him. 48138T, 12 gauge. *We Never share your email without your permission. Frame has unusual cocking indi .Click for more info Seller: LeRoy Merz Antique Guns Area Code: 218 $2,575.00 I just returned from shooting wild pheasant and quail in eastern Oregon and I cannot tell you how pleased I was on how my little 16g. Note the modern dimensions for rising birds. But then again not everyone can afford or has one, OR CAN GET ONE. Vintage Double Barrel Shotgun Forearm Iron Parts lot Stevens Savage Ithaca Read. Just in case. And with self/house defense laws as they have become in recent years in many states, there is absolutely no need to warn the intruder. See each listing for international shipping options and costs. A nice little 16g. Many years before the type was used in the Old West, the coach gun was used to guard European coaches from dangerous highwaymen. Cond. When I did private security work I always carried a 590 for backup before law enforcement could be summoned and arrive. I hate having to pull the empties out, and in an actual defensive situation, being slowed down that much could be dangerous. I had an incident here with a druggie scouting out my yard and shop and I stepped out in my underwear with a pump and racked a round and suggested he leave immediately. 6 Lbs. What a great little double gun. An extremely strong and unusual prewar 16g. I worked up a light load with #8 shot for her to train with and its in the right barrel. These are short-barreled, side-by-side Ithaca shotguns that were easy to bring to bear and shoot while inside the driver's box. I was introduced to #4 by a professional hunter that hunted coyotes from a helicopter. Some years ago I bought a Spartan, 20 inch coach gun. If you want to get a little less traditional with things, there are a lot of great offerings from Charles Daly. Great dimensions for many and zero cast so south paws can shoot this one too! If youre recoil sensitive, consider a slip-on buttpad or a recoil pad for extended shooting sessions. Signup now! Rifles. DAVID KIRKWOOD 10 GAUGE HAMMERLESS SHOTGUN GI#: 102222780 Gun features a pistol grip checkered walnut stock. STOEGER 12-Gauge Coach Gun. Weight: 6 Lbs. Some big news for trigger pullers recently from the Civilian Marksmanship Program. I took it to the range with a couple of men from my church. Very unique! Category, Antique LONDON FINE TWIST Side by Side Shotgun ~ 12Ga ~ 36" Barrels, 2 muzzleloader. Size of shot pattern for birdshot to buck shot no more than a quater under 15; so even #7 1/2 is effective man killer at in home defensive range. Very nice sharp gun overall! Taylors & Company FS Tactical 1911: Now in 10mm! 1 2 3 8 Next . Weight empty is 8 pounds. Stoeger 410 Coach Gun for self-defense mods and setup. Or call 1-800-284-5668, or emailsubscriptions@athlonmediagroup.com. We wish we did not have to consider this, but sometimes we do. Real safety is between the ears and involves keeping the finger off of the trigger until you fire. Sometimes referred to bySxS, the side-by-side shotgun is a classic double-barrel shotgun thats equally well-suited for sport shooting and bird hunting. That said, I suspect it will be a long time before the liberals in any capacity begin to acknowledge that we gun owners and gun rights organization members have the kind of clout that we do have. A coach gun is a modern term, coined by gun collectors, for a double-barreled shotgun, generally with barrels from 18 to 24 inches (460 to 610 mm) in length, placed side-by-side.These weapons were known as "cut-down shotguns" or "messenger's guns" from the use of such shotguns on stagecoaches by shotgun messengers in the American Wild West.They came in 10 and 12 gauge blackpowder variants. A nice vintage Greener that has excellent bores and is tight on face. I have shot this gun and I have to say it handles extremely well. It would be gone if properly oil finished. ENGRAVED Antique NICOLAS BOUTET Percussion Conversion DOUBLE BARREL Shotgun French GOLD INLAID Side by Side Fowling Piece! *Note this grade features a Purdey style hidden third bite. Otherwise, its the same gun as the Hammer Coach. Give me a call if you know of someone that has one, even it may not be on the market. Stock Dimensions: 14 3/8"LOP x " c .Click for more info Seller: Lewis Drake & Associates Area Code: 270 $13,500.00 Nock, London. Dixon markings. But otherwise , thank you for the very technical legal advice as Im sure its a benefit to us all who did plan on shooting those fleeing from us when the opportunity came. This is one time i want to be singled out as a major contributing factor and let them know how strong we are and how dedicated against someone like her. defender and although the appearance doesnt have the same effect as a double it has an effect as a short barrel shotgun and the racking of the slide to chamber a round is unmistakable and a very effective psychological tool. Another company that produces some great short double guns is Stoeger. 14 oz. Shooting in off hand/ weak hand, hip, etc. All Types (3) SKU. William Evans 12g Boxlock Ejector ~ This is their "Best Quality" model ~ Check out the features and the beautiful wood and fences! This is a neat little bead-sighted shotgun that handles well. !. Gun retains traces of the original laminated steel pattern with the balance having turned a plum brown. It is my wifes primary home defense weapon. And not as expensive as some of the other big brand name ammo. It comes in 12 or 20 gauge, or .410 bore with either blued steel and walnut, or in a tactical model with a black synthetic stock and Picatinny rails. Bright shiny bores. The modern hammer-fired double barrel has the advantage of simplicity. Francotte Beautifully Side Plated boxlock in wonderful condition ~ I love the engraving and case colors, Charles Hellis and Sons ~ Check out the engraving and other features of this beautiful little double, William Evans high grade boxlock in nice condition, Thomas Adsett & Sons "Churchill" model with the Churchill rib, W.C. Scott in wonderful original condition and nitro proofed 2 3/4". Heck, even my M1 carbine is a better choice for defense than the coach gun. This gun is field ready. This gun was built between 1896 and 1900 so am researching it and if it was made before 1899 we will be able to ship direct to most states instead of to an ffl. They typically have two triggers one for each barrel and offer safety and speed in a simplistic, reliable design. They are both opportunistic scavengers and cowards unless traveling in packs.That said I am looking into getting another double barrel because the varmints arent impressed with the sound of the racking slide.Enjoyed the article, it covered all the pros of the Double and reminded me how much I miss mine. I have found with my 20 870 (deer barrel, rifle sights) that the IC choke gives good buckshot patterns and excellent slug accuracy. A very old gun dating back to the 1700's to the early 1800's. Many have heard of the "Kerstan" rib extension extra bite. If you're looking for a traditional double-barrel shotgun, look no further. Antique O/U 44/12 ga. Wisconsin Maker DST Patch Box Ex. Features nice shiny bright bores. In reality, Jimmy, the blunderbuss was a single barrel gun, since the flared muzzle would preclude two barrels collimated side by side. And the #4 Buck rounds make for a solid, light-kicking self-defense load. The barrels are 20-inches long. Grew up with 12 gauge, double barrel next to the front door. Built about 1898 this gem can be shipped direct. If youre looking for a short-barreled shotgun for home defense, there are lots of modern semi-auto and pump options out there, not to mention the SBS shotgun configurations you can create, plus the non-NFA shorty shotguns that are tax-stamp free. My other edc gun is a Winchester 86 extra light in 45-70. English Engraved ROBINSON & SON Antique ~7 Gauge Shotgun Fowler PERCUSSION Large Bore FOWLING Piece .90 Caliber, BRITISH Antique T. KETLAND & COMPANY Percussion Conversion FOWLING Piece 16 Gauge FLINTLOCK to PERCUSSION Shotgun. But times are tough, so I ran a wide variety of whatever shells I could find through this double-barrel, including a few targets loads, some 2 3/4-inch 00 Buck, a couple of my very precious 3-inch 5 shot Winchester Longbeard XR turkey rounds, and a few boxes of 1 3/4-inch Federal Shorty rounds. Shotgun was cut down to "coach gun" configuration with 20" barrels . I prefer #4 Buck in 12 gauge loads for self defense.#3 Buck in 20 gauge will do the jobCenter Mass hits at 15-20 yards/meters should stop and take the fight out of the Bad Guy. As far as cost reasons to buy a coach gun, Cheaperthandirt has many pump actions for less than what the CZ coach gun costs. I keep a Stoeger Coach gun loaded with 3 000 buck by my bedside for things that go bump in the night. *This gun features a 15 1/4" checkered butt. Th, A vintage clean New England 19th Century 16ga fowler with a round 33" barrel hoked at CYL. A 20 gauge, or even a .410, will work IF you can hit a 6 paper plate at 10 yards, and keep almost every pellet on the plate. One does NOT become competent or capable by purchasing or owning ANY firearm..or with any firearm they never practice with under various conditions. Built in 1938. What are you using? It is a Wells Fargo double barrel 12 gauge shotgun. *Chokes are tight but can easily be opened. I have seen many double-barrel shotguns at ready in the home or on the farm, and they are capable of dispatching unwanted pests and varmints as well as members of our protein-fed ex-con criminal class. There is also the appeal of coach guns as a low-key defensive shotgun that doesnt have much negative connotation. The Condor Outback is also available with a less striking combo of blued steel and an A-grade walnut stock or a synthetic stock. I used one like it for years and loved it. Very Rare Granville Henry Single Shot Percussion Shotgun. The gun was nitro proofed in 1968 according to the proof marks on the flats. The Bristol and . The double-barrel action is compact and allows for longer barrels while retaining a relatively short profile. W. Palmer Jones. As a five shot double action revolving shoulder weapon, one can put a number of bursts on a target at in-house distances that will definitely put the hurt on a bad guy in short order. The Howdah 20-Gauge Double-Barrel Flintlock Pistol Has a Deep History Coach Guns Were the Best Line of Defense The company saw fit to arm its messengers with what would become known as messenger guns and coach guns. Good for snakes, and at 5 to 10 feet the flash and bang will send 99% of home invaders running and the pellets will not penetrate 1/2 inch drywall so no worries about collateral damage. Not to mention the joy of shooting one of the above beautiful examples. Great barrels and wall thickness on this James Lang. BUT AGAIN PRACTICE PRACTICE, PRACTICE PRACTICE , AND MORE PRACTICE (as mentioned above) also fire and maneuver, cover and concealment WILL help you better odds of survival. The Daly Coach Gun has barrels threaded for Rem choke tubes, adding versatility to this compact, break-action shotty. The Triple Threat is the abbreviated version of the Triple Crown shotgun with 18.5-inch barrels. GI#: 102201293 H. Nock, London. They are my edc because I chose them to be. Available in both the hard-hitting 12-gauge and the light-kicking 20, I elected for the 20-gauge so everyone in the home could use the shotgun well. performed with 7/8 oz. 10 1/4-11 1/2 rifle-caliber carbine is superior in every way. On the other hand, Winchesters #3 buckshot load holds 20 buckshot pellets. $10 "Sawed-off" Coach Gun: A "sawed-off" version of the Coach Shotgun above. The double-barrel is simple to use well. If ya want a single shot sad to say it but the Stevens 301 is the closest thing to the old NEF. If you prefer a hammerless version of this excellent coach gun, CZ makes the Sharp-Tail Coach, which is basically the same shotgun, just without the rabbit ears on the receiver. The lockplates are chisel engraved wi, A superior quality fine grade English London Stub Twist percussion silver mounted hammer double with a 34" barrel and left yube choke is IM and right tube is choke is also IM. It has all of the Wells Fargo marking that include markings on the left side of the buttstock. For home defense, the coach gun looks good. Rare Find. Shotguns At Collectors Firearms, we pride ourselves on our ever evolving inventory of antique shotguns and used shotguns for sale. Charles Ingram boxlock with very nice wood and engraving ~ Own a very nice Scottish shotgun! $214.95 . Dont get me wrong, itll thump your rear like an angry mule with hemerroids using 00 buck, rifled slugs, 3 heavy high wall brass, magnums doesnt matter, itll eat it. Some old pitting and rust on the barrel. Stoeger Coach Guns single and double trigger shotguns are based on the Old West stagecoach guard's shotgun of choice. A lovely, pre WWII quality, double from Belgium in very nice condition. Today, side-by-side shotguns themselves are fairly uncommon, only made by a handful of companies. The cost was very reasonable so the side by side was purchased and came home with me. On the outside away from home in todays world you may encounter a situation of great complexity. All Rights Reserved. It was easy to handle and there wasnt much that could go wrong as long as the ammo was good. Learned to fire it with some degree of accuracy by the time I was tall enough to reach the triggers. 20 gauge is a great choice for people of light of stature. A very tight gun and with condition this nice little 28 features modern high stock dimensions with a decent lop which could be made up to 1" longer with a pad. It is extremely compact and possesses two 7-round magazines. Seller: LeRoy Merz Antique Guns Area Code: 218 $1,975.00 EXTREMELY FINE COLT 1878 10 GAUGE DOUBLE BARREL HAMMER SHOTGUN GI#: 102207886 Pistol grip checkered walnut stocks in excellent condition with most all varnish remaining.